Bright Ugly Drummer and Will's bandmate Lawrence Miller combines the mind of a philospher with the raw physical energy that comes from being a punk, metal and jazz drummer.

He talks to Will about the nature of performance and the physicality of playing drums, watching belief systems get broken down while studying philosphy in college, discussing the cultural impact of jazz music, growing up on heavy metal, moving to New York City, and what he thinks makes his band with Will Bright Ugly work so well.